AMTAS Autumn 2004 Meeting
Results of Breakout Sessions
Group A Priorities
Questions Considered
- Basic/applied research needs that should be addressed by AMTAS
- Educational/training courses that should be developed by AMTAS
- Long-term growth of AMTAS (new funding/members)
- RESEARCH NEEDS
- Manufacturing automation—repeatability, nature of defects, tolerance limits
- part thickness
- complex material/assemblies (fasteners/metals/composites)
- drilling
- tooling
- Baseline knowledge—company-specific difference in manufacturing methods
- communication/training
- Effects of defects (manufacturing) and damage
- visual damage limits = f (impact event: energy, impactor geometry, other variables)
- quantitative NDI
- assigning a metric to damage/defect
- strong links to maintenance
- Composite material cure—involves heat transfer, tooling, design detail
- During manufacturing
- During maintenance/repair
- TRAINING
- Simple but practical manufacturing concepts (materials, processes, metal/composite differences)
- Maintenance
- Damage tolerance (manufacturing defects, ADL, critical damage)
- How to package 4-year degrees that includes 20+ years experience
- AMTAS GROWTH
- What does it mean?
- actual funding
- technical oversight/advice
- training support
- Industry partners related to existing AMTAS partner products
- Seek strategic partners globally based on need
- What strategy should we take for candidate partners outside aero?
- DoD, NASA, foreign government—when it helps our mission
- Other aero products in addition to transport (small airplanes, commuters, rotorcraft, space)
Group B Priorities
Questions Considered:
- Basic/applied research needs that should be addressed by AMTAS
- Educational/training courses that should be developed by AMTAS
- Long-term growth of AMTAS (new funding/members)
- RESEARCH NEEDS
- Repair materials: wider tolerances; processing
- Testing for bonded joints, durability
- Inspection methods for manufacturing and repair debonds
- Process controls for repairs: process; environment (tent–o/s)
- Processing methods
- TRAINING
- Multi-tiers for complex repair scenarios
- environ. technicians/inspection/repair process/engineers/STO
- repair design/analysis tools
- INDUSTRIAL PARTNERS NEEDED
- MROs—Nordam, Goodrich
- General aviation—Raytheon, Bombardier, Vought
- Materials suppliers—DuPont?, 3-M, Allied
- Customers—airlines
- Boeing partners/universities
- Foreign regulatory agencies
Group C Priorities
Questions Considered:
- Basic/applied research needs that should be addressed by AMTAS
- Educational/training courses that should be developed by AMTAS
- Long-term growth of AMTAS (new funding/members)
- RESEARCH NEEDS
- Repair—infrastructure/training
- Manufacturing (life cycle view)
- Design/performance equation
- Nanotechnology
- implications of nano materials
- nanotech of multifunctional films (near-term)
- nano regulatory issues
- Structural health monitoring—components: technology, value
- smart structuring—static/dynamic
- International field testing/standardization
- Larger scale mechanical property testing
- TRAINING
- Clarification of certification process for composites
- Goal is to be effective on a global basis
- identify curriculum elements that are transferable
- applied/practical modules
- Enhance lab facilities/experience
- network of labs? U.S., international
- AMTAS GROWTH
- Why R&D at AMTAS? / market benefits of involvement
- value chain—align with R&D
- everyone contributes to area
- regulatory oversight responsibilities
Group D Priorities
Questions Considered:
- Basic/applied research needs that should be addressed by AMTAS
- Educational/training courses that should be developed by AMTAS
- Long-term growth of AMTAS (new funding/members)
- RESEARCH NEEDS
- Bonding material treatments (peel ply)
- Environmental durability
- NDI to assess weak bonds
- Robust temporary repair techniques in remote environments
- Thermoplastics—characterization
- TRAINING
- Incorporate distance learning with lab activity
- Traveling road show
- Multi-language at the working level
- Connect training to “quality”—certification to be made part of quality procedures
- Organization (required)
- AMTAS GROWTH
- Participants:
- other OEMs (lack of communication; must see value)
- tier 1
- raw material
- Ideas:
- business plan for AMTAS
- invite outside interests (e.g., insurance)
- meeting location—JAMSCOE collaboration
- revise ITAR (?)
- expand AMTAS to include JAA/CAA